With the economy and everyone wanting to save money, it is shameful that Mr. Villa put his name on this product. An electric heater can do the job for an unheated sideroom or shop where the cost of a furnace or duct work would be prohibitive. The heater might be graet but at this time I don't want to take that chance just incase it is not what BOB VILA claims to be ture. I am not so egotistical to refuse to admit that I was taken and that Edenpure sells grossly overpriced junk. I chose not to not knowing how high those three months would be. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. One of the most important features and benefits of the Eden Pure vs one of the $50 that may heat the same space I would not trust most of those $50 heaters or anything that can be turned over easily and I certainly would never leave my home with one of those heaters on. EdenPURE sells their heaters all day long on their website for $247 plus free shipping so where you got your $400 figure is a mystery. Sweeney, William Mapother, Richard Portnow, Logan Huffman. And Sylvania's bulb life testing, like all other lamp manufacturers, is performed in still air with infrequent on/off cycles (once a day to once a week). Hmmm, think about it. And it is VERY safe. The air movement inside an Edenpure heater is blowing the coldest air on the base of the bulbs and the bulbs cycle on and off frequently. Even your oil or gas-fired furnace does not reduce oxygen because the combustion gasses that go up the chimney are replaced by air infiltration. Both heated equal areas in comparable ways, even though the Lasko only costs about $50. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 00 EdenPURE GEN40 Heater $247. Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. I was told that I have 60 days trial and could return it back within 60 if I choose to, but that is not true. The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. I cannot tell you if the heater is worth it or not, because they will not answer the phone once you place an order. yes my electric bill is higher when i run the eden pure, but my gas bill is greatly lowered, my main furnance mainly runs during the day when we are a work, because i dont like leaving the eden pure running when we are not home. Igrosfera.org / / bill burkett heaters. You just lay it loose on top so nothing touches it. These are the dimensions of a jail cell, not a room. I ordered my heater on the 14th of Dec. and was told that it would not take more than 14 days (what a joke)I started calling around the first of January and I could not get anyone on the phone. I wonder how much Edenpure payed Bob Vila to get on television and tell all these lies about the Gen 4 heaters? This may be because their previous forced-air system ductwork had or developed leaks, or something was wrong with air-flow on their system (clogged filters !!) I'll bet they had a forced-air heat pump. June 11, 2022 Posted by: when was arthur miller born No Comments. This guy can't read apparently. The criticism must have impelled these heater hucksters of Suarez Corporation Industries (which peddles both the "Amish"Heat Surge heaters and the Eden Pure heater) to back off the fable about Jones and his "cured copper." It will cost more. I was just about to order an edenpure heater. It is a 20 x 15, a pretty decent size room. EdenPURE principles are based on an initiative to market the safest and highest quality healthy-home products without compromising affordability to the average consumer. You'll love it. I called the customer service number 1-888-294-0280 and never spoke to anyone after being on hold for hours and I even left my home number and they never returned my call after being assured they would call. It's not the space heater itself that saves you money, it's the fact you aren't heating the rest of the space in your home. Have sent emails to their c/s area but they never respond. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. The BTU (British Thermal Unit) was developed for flame based heat, not electricity. There just selling an alternative that has good and bad points like everything else on the market. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. Anybody can sell anything and make great claims and never have to prove them.I am a electrican and 1500 watts is 1500 watts no matter what shape or size. turning you main source of heat down for the whole house and just warming up the areas you are in with the Eden Pure heater. I just read Steve's reply and had he spelled better I might have give it more creditability. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 13, 2011: Thanks for the comment, ritamarie. Why pay 400.00 for a space heater,when you can go to Home Depot and buy a elecric heater for 30.00-60.00 that will heat the room better than the "bulbs in a box" heater will.Edenpure is just ripping people off! I was going to buy an edenpure because I am a senior citizen and in winter my light bill is out of sight but reading all the negative comments, NO THANKS! It does heat evenly. A well designed heater can produce far more heated CFM than a poorly designed heater. P.S. . Also in the month I ran the Edenpure unit I saw an increase of about 8% on my electric bill versus the radiator unit. Any typical portable electric space heater of 1000-2000 W will produce exactly the same amount of heat as EdenPure. It's CFM rate is horrible vs. a fan forced electric heater. That's common sense. Let me first say, I have been praiseing the Edenpure for about 6 years. I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. Want a great laugh? Keep up the good work EdenPURE! Most heat guns even have a little twist flap on the back which does this to the heat gun so you can adjust the heat output it has nothing but coving up the airflow to adjust temp. That scenario assumes that you have to heat only a single room to heat at a time or that you own multiple EdenPure space heaters; that once you're in a room you stay put and don't move around the house; and that you're willing to keep the rest of your home at a chilly 50F. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 18, 2010: Joe T, I wrote this article after testing the EdenPURE heater. The space heater is thermally more efficient than a comparable space heater wherein the copper or aluminum has not been pretreated. Shame--big time--on Bob Vila, since he HAS to know better. By not heating the unoccupied rooms of your home, you will cut your heating bill. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. U CANT HEAT HOT WATER DUH! Thanks for pointing this out for those of us who are scam recognizably challenged. I don't think this is a good business now I have a machine that doesn't work. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. Whether it saves more money than all the others is not the issue. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. Lucinda from Michigan on December 03, 2012: I got my 1st heater in nov.20011 and used it for 5 months and up for the summer I got it out on oct.25 20012. dont buy this heater,if you live in California. I called them again and realizing that these things must be nothing but junk I told them that I just wanted a refund. The linear source of infrared radiant energy and heat exchanger are mounted in a heater core that is thermally insulated by an air jacket from an exterior case. If a simple electric space heater can cut energy consumption by 50 percent, then the government may wish to promote the product with tax incentives in order to break Americas dependence on foreign oil. My wife and I have found that our electric and gas power bills have gone down by more than half, each (we have a gas furnace) since we started using our Life Smart brand infrared heater. 29/12/2020 . You can put a sheet of copper in front of your heater and buffer the heat with an electric heater. I just needed to confirm that there hadn't been a major scientific breakthrough that makes free energy. I purchased a gen4 2 months ago and could not find I was saving any money since Im all electric.I have notified the co I want to return the heater for a refund and they keep giving me the run around about sending me an RMA and the prepaid UPS slip to ship the unit back to them.after reading some of the other complaints I'm wandering if I will ever get a slip. Since the same heater at Amazon is under $100 my guess is they lowered their price to compete better. The blower came on but no heat. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. I put up with very high bills until last year from what is no more than a heater that was supposed to be a heat pump, meaning it runs on heat strips. Edenpure heaters are CRAP. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. bl. I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? I finally find the place and they said i only had 30 days warranty not 60 days. Dont let anyone tell you the heat from their heaters is better or different. Edin Pure used to give you 2 models (large and small).Sam's Club usually sells Quartz heaters at a competitive price. Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. Facts Buddy Fast, Factual, Free USA. EdenPure makes all these claims about saving money, but in their ad they say their $197 Personal heater will heat a room of 300 sq. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. Placed an order for the Eden Pure Gen 4 after watching an TV commercial. BTW, I did see a DuraFlame (the maker of the duraflame logs) had a heater with a description that was practically identical to the EdenPure and it was only approximately $225. I remodeled a mobile home and replaced the insulation and added drywall. A $50.00 Lasko has the exact same efficiency as its EP $450.00 counterpart. Gas burners are a hazard in a barn with hay even if only in a side utility room. Thanks to all of your warnings I will now seek out a nice space heater for around $50 or so and continue to heat my home the same way I have been, just keeping the space heater handy for when I want a little extra heat on colder days. No complaints at all. Buyer beware. Out performs? AND I MEAN THAT SINCERELY. Minneapolis/St. The group was formed in 1958 at the old Turtle Creek High School, calling. That way, I do believe you can save money especially during the night while sleeping. I promise you the payback on this will be much better than an expensive space heater. Now, if you doubt that I read that or that it can be true, the next one I copied and pasted for the guy who said 1500 watts is 1500 watts and will put out the same. And, BTW, author of this site, it is SQUARE FEET, not CUBIC as you stated. As well as my cats! Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 02, 2011: Bob, my main concern is saving ME money. Some are made in China using cheap bulbs and some are made in the usa. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. But I'm sure they will be $94.80 two years from now. All EdenPURE does is dress it up and jack the price to the stratosphere. I have changed my mind and will not be purchasing the eden pure and will no longer trust Mr. Vila as someone who has MY best interest at heart. Put an infrared heater in your bedroom. xc. I used the Gen3 1000 last winter and it kept our living area comfortable. You are dead wrong pilgrim. She points out their parents had electrc heat in a double-wide. Again, the EdenPure AND ANY HEATER using 1500 watts is going to cost too much to use as your only heat. I love it. But using ANY space heater will lower your heating bill if you turn your thermostat down! This can be an effective do-it-yourself project, just be careful doing so, or get someone experienced to help you. It's not that I think the EdenPURE doesn't work. I was told that they were still processing my order and that it would have been sent out this week (SURE). The importance of this is any space heater will do that. Whether you like the article or not - the simple fact is any cost savings you are seeing by using an Eden Pure heater is due to the use of "zone heating" I.e. This year Feb 2011 they now want $94.80 for the same pack of bulbs. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. It seems the less expensive ones will not last as long (20,000hrs vs 80,000hrs, for the more expensive. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). However after studying A LOT of them including Duraflame, and all the current ones on the market, I found Dr. Infrared to be the best comparable for a fraction of the cost of EdenPure, as well as the most highly recommended. Jones was last found registered under his obviously fictional name in a cheap motel in the company of a dubious woman. Those watts exactly represent the energy you will get. Thank you so much! Menu. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. Space heaters save money because instead of heating your whole home, you just heat a small space. Therefore, a 10' x 10' room with a 10' foot ceiling is 100 square feet, but 1000 cubic feet. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. 2) Say you live in a 11,000 sq. Many times, the ductwork system in these homes are the coiled ductwork types that gets holes poked in it, or is otherwise leaky ductwork. Most of these testimonials are not of much use. The metal shell of a mobile home is excellent for transferring heat: summer heat outside gets in easily and in the winter inside warmth convects to the outdoors with ease. Turned on in December. Even a child knows that hot air rises. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. This actually makes their heater less efficient. You are just cutting costs by heating a smaller areasomething you could have done without a $400 space heater. Nothing is 100% efficient. I'm very disapointed and feel very stupid that I did not google this until now. It's clear that you have not only taken the bait, but swallowed the hook. I live in a double wall 2500 sq ft log home (outside logs, insulation, inside logs). I guess after all those years pushing Sears tools, Villa decided to push yet another scam. Endenpure I dont know till I get it. And third, it provides soft radiant heat that EVENLY spread around the room. They make you confused with names, like US 1000, GEN 4 1000, GEN 3 1000. I have 1250 sq ft upstairs and 1250 downstairs. I saw Bob Vila's very convincing infomercial and I agree that space heating rooms might be more efficient than a leaky whole-house system, and it does seem logical that one 1500 watt 5000 btu space heater shouldn't be any better than another, but I would be interested to know if any Eden Pure owners have actually found this second point to be true. I have no complaints. they sent me a RFH one it can to me in pieces they back cover was broken in several pieces. This has been disputed. at a fraction of the cost,with the same heat output a far fewer failure rates. Stay warm everyone!! But, to satisfy the originator of this, no I would not buy another EdenPure. Coincidentally, Burkett is the father of St. Aquinas' star quarterback Bobby (Logan Huffman) and his struggle to assert his copyright against his conniving space heater magnate boss (Richard . Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. Unplugged edenpure. I have gas heat but use this at night to warm my bedroom, rather than raise the thermostat to heat the whole house. the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. What a bunch of scam artists. William W. Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. I am glad you enjoy your EdenPURE heater. Signed Mad from South Dakota and hope there is some kind of class action suit taken against Eden Pure and their misleading clan. Go to the Home Depot, Lowe's, Cosco etc., and choose the heater out of couple of dozens designs they have there. 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